{"id":3477,"date":"2017-02-15T17:54:40","date_gmt":"2017-02-15T17:54:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/?p=3477"},"modified":"2017-04-05T12:21:16","modified_gmt":"2017-04-05T12:21:16","slug":"na-kave-s-pavlem-nezvalem","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/?p=3477","title":{"rendered":"Na k\u00e1v\u011b s Pavlem Nezvalem"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"<\/a>P\u0159\u00edjemn\u00e9 pov\u00edd\u00e1n\u00ed u rann\u00ed k\u00e1vy se tentokr\u00e1t odehr\u00e1lo v \u0159editeln\u011b Z\u00e1kladn\u00ed \u0161koly Tom\u00e1\u0161e Garrigua Masaryka v Blansku. Pavel Nezval, kter\u00fd zast\u00e1v\u00e1 funkci \u0159editele na t\u00e9to \u0161kole ji\u017e t\u0159in\u00e1ct\u00fdm rokem, pohovo\u0159il o z\u00e1kladn\u00edch vzd\u011bl\u00e1vac\u00edch sm\u011brech takzvan\u00e9 \u201et\u00e9g\u00e9emky\u201c. P\u0159edt\u00edm p\u016fsobil jako \u0159editel na z\u00e1kladn\u00ed \u0161kole v Jedovnic\u00edch a z\u00e1stupce \u0159editele na tamn\u00ed pr\u016fmyslov\u00e9 \u0161kole. Zku\u0161enosti m\u00e1 tedy bohat\u00e9. Tvrd\u00ed, \u017ee do Z\u00e1kladn\u00ed \u0161koly TGM chod\u00ed d\u011bti r\u00e1dy.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Na co va\u0161e \u0161kola l\u00e1k\u00e1 rodi\u010de budouc\u00edch prv\u0148\u00e1\u010dk\u016f?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Na\u0161e \u0161kola byla v\u017edycky vn\u00edm\u00e1na jako \u0161kola s roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159enou v\u00fdukou jazyk\u016f a tro\u0161ku na tom stav\u00edme \u2013 od \u0161est\u00e9 t\u0159\u00eddy maj\u00ed \u017e\u00e1ci povinn\u011b t\u0159i hodiny druh\u00e9ho jazyka, a to bu\u010f n\u011bm\u010diny, ru\u0161tiny nebo francouz\u0161tiny. D\u00e1 se tedy \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee jsme zam\u011b\u0159en\u00ed na v\u00fduku jazyk\u016f, co\u017e n\u011bkter\u00e9 rodi\u010de vede k tomu, \u017ee d\u00e1vaj\u00ed d\u011bti k n\u00e1m. Ale na druhou stranu jsme \u0161kola, kter\u00e1 se sna\u017e\u00ed nab\u00edzet tradi\u010dn\u00ed vzd\u011bl\u00e1n\u00ed bez n\u011bjak\u00fdch experiment\u016f a p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 modern\u00edch sm\u011br\u016f, kter\u00e9 se v sou\u010dasnosti r\u016fzn\u011b objevuj\u00ed. Chceme b\u00fdt klasickou \u0161kolou, kter\u00e1 stav\u00ed na osv\u011bd\u010den\u00fdch metod\u00e1ch v\u00fduky, a\u0165 u\u017e v matematice, nebo v \u010desk\u00e9m jazyku p\u0159i v\u00fduce p\u00edsma.<\/p>\n

Jak\u00fdm v\u00fdvojem pro\u0161la \u0161kola v minul\u00fdch letech?<\/b><\/p>\n

Kdy\u017e jsem sem v roce 2004 nastoupil, byla na\u0161e \u0161kola z hlediska po\u010dtu \u017e\u00e1k\u016f na t\u0159et\u00edm m\u00edst\u011b v Blansku. M\u011bla kolem \u010dty\u0159 set \u017e\u00e1k\u016f. A p\u0159esto\u017ee p\u0159i\u0161el popula\u010dn\u00ed pokles, da\u0159ilo se n\u00e1m po\u010dty \u017e\u00e1k\u016f neust\u00e1le zvy\u0161ovat. V sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b jich m\u00e1me zhruba \u0161est set. Je to d\u00e1no t\u00edm, \u017ee jsem se sna\u017eil p\u0159ed\u011blat syst\u00e9m, kter\u00fd tady byl. Za m\u00e9ho p\u0159edch\u016fdce to byla \u0161kola elitn\u00ed, kter\u00e1 se sna\u017eila d\u011bti rozd\u011blovat na nej\u0161ikovn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed \u2013 to byly A t\u0159idy, pak pr\u016fm\u011brn\u00e9 \u2013 B t\u0159\u00eddy, a v t\u0159\u00edd\u00e1ch C byly d\u011bti s podpr\u016fm\u011brn\u00fdmi v\u00fdsledky, kter\u00e9 nem\u011bly roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159enou v\u00fduku jazyk\u016f. Pochopiteln\u011b bylo velmi p\u0159\u00edjemn\u00e9 u\u010dit v \u00e1\u010dkov\u00e9 t\u0159\u00edd\u011b. Ale jsem odp\u016frcem takov\u00e9ho d\u011blen\u00ed d\u011bt\u00ed, t\u0159\u00edda by m\u011bla b\u00fdt homogenn\u00ed. V\u0161echny d\u011bti maj\u00ed nyn\u00ed u n\u00e1s stejn\u00e1 pr\u00e1va a stejn\u00e9 povinnosti.<\/p>\n

\u0160lo to hladce?<\/b><\/p>\n

Byl to trochu boj, n\u011bjakou dobu mi to trvalo, ale elit\u00e1\u0159stv\u00ed se mi nakonec poda\u0159ilo zru\u0161it a v dne\u0161n\u00ed dob\u011b u\u017e by byl n\u00e1vrat k tomuto syst\u00e9mu asi nep\u0159edstaviteln\u00fd. Nepova\u017eoval jsem za spr\u00e1vn\u00e9 d\u011bti d\u011blit do skupin podle inteligen\u010dn\u00ed \u00farovn\u011b.<\/p>\n

Proto jsem tak\u00e9 p\u0159estal podporovat odchody d\u011bt\u00ed na v\u00edcelet\u00e1 gymn\u00e1zia. Pochopiteln\u011b n\u00e1m odch\u00e1zej\u00ed, ale na p\u0159ij\u00edma\u010dky je nep\u0159ipravujeme, nehodl\u00e1me je kv\u016fli tomu dou\u010dovat. Je to dal\u0161\u00ed v\u011bc, kter\u00e1 n\u00e1m pouze p\u0159id\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1 probl\u00e9my, kdy\u017e \u0161pice t\u0159\u00eddy odejde. Loni n\u00e1m jich ode\u0161lo patn\u00e1ct, proto\u017ee u n\u00e1s d\u011bti celkem um\u00ed, to mus\u00edm p\u0159iznat. Mohl bych se kasat, \u017ee do primy brali t\u0159icet d\u011bt\u00ed a z toho patn\u00e1ct jich bylo z na\u0161\u00ed \u0161koly, ale pova\u017euji to sp\u00ed\u0161 za \u0161kodu.<\/p>\n

<\/b>N\u011bkdo m\u00e1 p\u0159ece na to, aby se rozv\u00edjel rychleji?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

A tomu v\u011b\u0159\u00edte, \u017ee se na gymn\u00e1ziu rozv\u00edj\u00ed rychleji?<\/p>\n

Je to takov\u00e1 p\u0159edstava\u2026\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

To je myln\u00e1 p\u0159edstava. Sta\u010d\u00ed se pod\u00edvat na v\u00fdsledky test\u016f, kdy se sledovaly znalosti student\u016f kvinty a prvn\u00edho ro\u010dn\u00edku, kte\u0159\u00ed p\u0159i\u0161li na gymn\u00e1zium po dev\u00e1t\u00e9 t\u0159\u00edd\u011b. Rozd\u00edl byl jen v r\u00e1mci statistick\u00e9 chyby. Ka\u017ed\u00fd by \u010dekal, \u017ee v\u00fdsledky d\u011bt\u00ed, co chod\u00ed ji\u017e \u010dty\u0159i roky na v\u00edcelet\u00e9 gymn\u00e1zium, budou o dvacet procent lep\u0161\u00ed, ale rozd\u00edl byl t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 nulov\u00fd.<\/p>\n

Ono by to fungovalo, kdyby tam \u0161la jen t\u0159i procenta t\u011bch nejnadan\u011bj\u0161\u00edch d\u011bt\u00ed, ale to u\u017e v \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b nen\u00ed pravda.<\/p>\n

V \u010dem vid\u00edte hlavn\u00ed probl\u00e9m p\u0159echodu na v\u00edcelet\u00e9 gymn\u00e1zium?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

N\u011bkter\u00fdm z nich to mo\u017en\u00e1 m\u016f\u017ee p\u0159in\u00e9st n\u011bjak\u00fd posun, kter\u00e9ho by mo\u017en\u00e1 na z\u00e1kladn\u00ed \u0161kole nedos\u00e1hli. Ale kdyby cht\u011bli, tak by ho dos\u00e1hli i u n\u00e1s. Ov\u0161em u spousty d\u011bt\u00ed to m\u00e1 negativn\u00ed dopady na jejich soci\u00e1ln\u00ed vazby. D\u011bti, kter\u00e9 odejdou na v\u00edcelet\u00e9 gymn\u00e1zium, okam\u017eit\u011b ztr\u00e1cej\u00ed kontakty se sv\u00fdmi vrstevn\u00edky. Obzvl\u00e1\u0161t\u011b d\u011bv\u010data, pokud jsou sna\u017eiv\u00e1, ale takzvan\u011b na to nemaj\u00ed, p\u0159ijdou ze \u0161koly a cel\u00e9 odpoledne se u\u010d\u00ed, nemaj\u00ed krou\u017eky, aktivity, nejdou ven. Maj\u00ed mo\u017en\u00e1 sam\u00e9 jedni\u010dky, ale nev\u00edm, jestli to za tu cenu stoj\u00ed. Kdyby se p\u0159ihl\u00e1sily na gymn\u00e1zium norm\u00e1ln\u011b v dev\u00edtce, dostanou se tam \u00fapln\u011b v pohod\u011b, proto\u017ee blanensk\u00e9 gymn\u00e1zium otv\u00edr\u00e1 dv\u011b t\u0159\u00eddy a nen\u00ed probl\u00e9m se tam dostat. Maturitu ud\u011blaj\u00ed stejnou jako studenti v\u00edcelet\u00e9ho gymn\u00e1zia, a pokud budou \u0161ikovn\u00ed, dos\u00e1hnou stejn\u00fdch v\u00fdsledk\u016f, ne-li lep\u0161\u00edch, ne\u017e ti, co tam \u0161li z p\u00e1t\u00e9 t\u0159\u00eddy.<\/p>\n

Jste tedy zast\u00e1ncem konzervativn\u00edch metod\u2026<\/b><\/p>\n

\u0160kola by podle m\u00e9ho n\u00e1zoru m\u011bla b\u00fdt konzervativn\u00ed instituc\u00ed, kter\u00e1 vede d\u011bti k tomu, aby z\u00edskaly n\u011bjak\u00e9 znalosti, a na t\u011bch to stoj\u00ed. Bez znalost\u00ed nic nejde. Takov\u00e1 ta p\u0159edstava, \u017ee d\u011bti se nebudou nic u\u010dit, je zcela zcestn\u00e1. Kdyby se nenau\u010dily ps\u00e1t a \u010d\u00edst, nenajdou to nikde na mobilu nebo na tabletu. A jak se to nau\u010d\u00ed? T\u00edm, \u017ee se na to budou v\u011bdom\u011b soust\u0159edit a \u017ee to budou opakovat, procvi\u010dovat. Houslista se tak\u00e9 nenau\u010d\u00ed hr\u00e1t skv\u011ble jenom proto, \u017ee m\u00e1 talent nebo \u017ee si to najde na internetu. Stejn\u011b tak v matematice je pot\u0159eba tr\u00e9novat sloupe\u010dky. Z\u00e1kladn\u00ed \u0161kola je o triviu \u2013 \u010d\u00edst, ps\u00e1t, po\u010d\u00edtat, k tomu jeden dva jazyky a IT gramotnost. Kdyby v\u0161echno ostatn\u00ed zru\u0161ili, tak by se zas tak moc nestalo. Ale ono je to bohu\u017eel naopak \u2013 neust\u00e1le se ub\u00edraj\u00ed hodiny \u010de\u0161tiny a matematiky.<\/p>\n

V\u0161imn\u011bte si, kolik firem chce k \u017e\u00e1dosti o zam\u011bstn\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159ilo\u017eit \u017eivotopis psan\u00fd vlastn\u00ed rukou. Zjistily toti\u017e, \u017ee se k nim do pr\u00e1ce hl\u00e1s\u00ed lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed jsou po \u010de\u0161tin\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9 str\u00e1nce t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 negramotn\u00ed. Tak\u017ee nem\u016f\u017eeme \u00fapln\u011b rezignovat na to, \u017ee v\u0161echno se bude d\u011blat na po\u010d\u00edta\u010di. P\u0159ijde blackout a jsme nahran\u00ed. Proto si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee \u0161kola by m\u011bla b\u00fdt konzervativn\u00ed, nau\u010dit d\u011bti \u010d\u00edst, ps\u00e1t, po\u010d\u00edtat, n\u011bjak\u00e9 sv\u011btov\u00e9 jazyky, IT gramotnost, z\u00e1klady v\u0161eobecn\u00e9ho p\u0159ehledu z d\u011bjepisu, ob\u010dansk\u00e9 v\u00fdchovy a zem\u011bpisu, ale nep\u0159eh\u00e1n\u011bt to. Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee u\u010divo je mnohdy naddimenzovan\u00e9, chceme po d\u011btech spoustu v\u011bc\u00ed, bez kter\u00fdch by se opravdu obe\u0161ly, a bohu\u017eel se jim ulevuje v oblastech, kde by to cht\u011blo p\u0159itvrdit. Bez z\u00e1klad\u016f se d\u011bti zkr\u00e1tka neobejdou, a\u0165 budou d\u011blat cokoliv.<\/p>\n

Co \u0159\u00edk\u00e1te na leto\u0161n\u00ed z\u00e1pisy do prvn\u00edch t\u0159\u00edd odlo\u017een\u00e9 na duben?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Je to nesmysl, ale n\u00e1s se nikdo neptal. Ministerstvo zd\u016fvod\u0148uje t\u00edm, \u017ee d\u011bti budou za ty dva t\u0159i m\u011bs\u00edce vyzr\u00e1lej\u0161\u00ed a nebude tolik odklad\u016f. To pochopiteln\u011b nen\u00ed pravda, na odklady to nebude m\u00edt vliv;\u00a0 pokud se rodi\u010de sami rozhodnou pro odklad, prodlou\u017eit potomkovi d\u011btstv\u00ed o rok, jak je to te\u010f modern\u00ed, tak to ud\u011blaj\u00ed v dubnu jako v \u00fanoru. A n\u00e1m to komplikuje situaci z toho d\u016fvodu, \u017ee nem\u016f\u017eeme pl\u00e1novat dal\u0161\u00ed \u0161koln\u00ed rok. V\u017edycky jsem v b\u0159eznu v\u011bd\u011bl, kolik budu m\u00edt prvn\u00edch t\u0159\u00edd, kolik m\u016f\u017eu m\u00edt u\u010ditel\u016f, te\u010f to budu v\u011bd\u011bt a\u017e v kv\u011btnu. T\u00edm p\u00e1dem bude m\u00ed\u0148 \u010dasu t\u0159eba na person\u00e1ln\u00ed zm\u011bny atd. Z m\u00e9ho hlediska to moc pozitivn\u00ed zm\u011bna nen\u00ed a nav\u00edc p\u0159ibylo pap\u00edrov\u00e1n\u00ed.<\/p>\n

Co je hlavn\u00edm probl\u00e9mem p\u0159i v\u00fduce?<\/b><\/p>\n

P\u0159ib\u00fdv\u00e1 d\u011bt\u00ed, kter\u00e9 nejsou zvykl\u00e9 respektovat jak\u00e1koliv pravidla. Nemaj\u00ed je stanovena ani v rodin\u011b.\u00a0 A nemaj\u00ed doma \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 povinnosti. Nev\u00ed, \u017ee n\u011bco se m\u016f\u017ee, n\u011bco nem\u016f\u017ee, \u017ee te\u010f se d\u011bl\u00e1, a te\u010f se odpo\u010d\u00edv\u00e1. D\u011blaj\u00ed si, co cht\u011bj\u00ed. \u0158\u00edk\u00e1m jim bezhrani\u010dn\u00ed d\u011bti, a jsou to d\u011bti bezhrani\u010dn\u00edch rodi\u010d\u016f. Pak do V\u00e1noc u\u010d\u00edte d\u011bti, \u017ee se v p\u016flce hodiny nem\u016f\u017eou zvednout a j\u00edt si hr\u00e1t na koberec. U\u010ditel\u00e9 pochopiteln\u011b za\u0159azuj\u00ed mnoho pohybov\u00fdch aktivit, ale mus\u00ed to m\u00edt n\u011bjak\u00fd \u0159\u00e1d, kter\u00fd ur\u010duje u\u010ditel a d\u00edt\u011b mus\u00ed respektovat pravidla. A to je n\u00e1\u0161 nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed probl\u00e9m, a je to probl\u00e9m v cel\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti. Pod\u00edvejte se, kolik lid\u00ed nerespektuje pravidla, kolik lid\u00ed se div\u00ed, \u017ee na silnic\u00edch by se m\u011blo jezdit podle dopravn\u00edch p\u0159edpis\u016f, kolik politik\u016f mluv\u00ed vulg\u00e1rn\u011b, jak se rodi\u010de bav\u00ed p\u0159ed sv\u00fdmi d\u011btmi \u2013 sta\u010d\u00ed zaj\u00edt do obchodn\u00edho centra. D\u011bti jsou nahr\u00e1vac\u00ed za\u0159\u00edzen\u00ed, v\u0161e nas\u00e1vaj\u00ed a berou si vzory od rodi\u010d\u016f. Postoje a hodnoty se vytv\u00e1\u0159ej\u00ed do p\u011bti let.<\/p>\n

Jak s t\u00edm bojujete?<\/b><\/p>\n

V na\u0161\u00ed \u0161kole se sna\u017e\u00edme praktikovat partnersk\u00fd p\u0159\u00edstup k \u017e\u00e1k\u016fm a rodi\u010d\u016fm. \u017d\u00e1ci i rodi\u010de jsou pro n\u00e1s partne\u0159i. Netvrd\u00edm, \u017ee \u00fapln\u011b na stejn\u00e9 \u00farovni, proto\u017ee to nen\u00ed mo\u017en\u00e9 vzhledem k tomu, \u017ee u\u010ditel\u00e9 jsou vystudovan\u00ed odborn\u00edci na vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed, p\u0159esto se sna\u017e\u00edme s rodi\u010di i \u017e\u00e1ky komunikovat v r\u00e1mci z\u00e1sad partnersk\u00e9ho p\u0159\u00edstupu, to znamen\u00e1 podle z\u00e1sad slu\u0161n\u00e9ho jedn\u00e1n\u00ed a se snahou naj\u00edt n\u011bjakou dohodu, kompromis apod. Ale p\u0159itom sou\u010dasn\u011b db\u00e1me na respektov\u00e1n\u00ed pravidel, a pokud n\u011bkter\u00e9 d\u011bti nerespektuj\u00ed pravidla, sna\u017e\u00edme se to \u0159e\u0161it okam\u017eit\u011b, a\u0165 jsou to v\u00fdchovn\u00e9 \u010di vzd\u011bl\u00e1vac\u00ed probl\u00e9my. Ve \u0161kole je pozitivn\u00ed klima a d\u011bti chod\u00ed do \u0161koly r\u00e1di, to m\u00e1m ov\u011b\u0159eno na z\u00e1klad\u011b r\u016fzn\u00fdch v\u00fdzkumn\u00fdch n\u00e1stroj\u016f. Jak \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, i p\u0159es jejich odpor je n\u011bco nau\u010d\u00edme (sm\u00edch).<\/p>\n

Marie Haso\u0148ov\u00e1<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

P\u0159\u00edjemn\u00e9 pov\u00edd\u00e1n\u00ed u rann\u00ed k\u00e1vy se tentokr\u00e1t odehr\u00e1lo v \u0159editeln\u011b Z\u00e1kladn\u00ed \u0161koly Tom\u00e1\u0161e Garrigua Masaryka v Blansku. Pavel Nezval, kter\u00fd<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":3478,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[5,14,56],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3477"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3477"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3477\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3479,"href":"https:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3477\/revisions\/3479"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/3478"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3477"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3477"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3477"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}