{"id":1911,"date":"2015-11-08T14:13:40","date_gmt":"2015-11-08T14:13:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/?p=1911"},"modified":"2016-11-11T07:33:07","modified_gmt":"2016-11-11T07:33:07","slug":"na-kave-s-jaroslavem-martinaskem","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/?p=1911","title":{"rendered":"Na k\u00e1v\u011b s Jaroslavem Martin\u00e1skem"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>Jaroslav Martin\u00e1sek: <\/em>  <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/02_web4.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignright wp-image-1912\" src=\"https:\/\/www.monitor-bk.cz\/wp-content\/uploads\/02_web4-231x300.jpg\" alt=\"02_web\" width=\"236\" height=\"303\" \/><\/a>Sbor mus\u00ed v\u011bd\u011bt, o \u010dem zp\u00edv\u00e1<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Na za\u010d\u00e1tku prosince lo\u0148sk\u00e9ho roku z\u00edskal Jaroslav Martin\u00e1sek z Jedovnic ocen\u011bn\u00ed v r\u00e1mci Jihomoravsk\u00e9ho kraj za p\u0159\u00ednos v oblasti hudby. Tento hudebn\u00edk, pedagog a dirigent v jedn\u00e9 osob\u011b je s Blanskem spjat veden\u00edm p\u011bveck\u00e9ho souboru Rastislav. Pod jeho taktovkou sbor zp\u00edv\u00e1 ji\u017e t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 t\u0159icet let. Ve velmi p\u0159\u00edjemn\u00e9m rozhovoru p\u0159i rann\u00ed k\u00e1v\u011b s t\u00edmto mil\u00fdm a dobrosrde\u010dn\u00fdm \u010dlov\u011bkem jsem se dozv\u011bd\u011bla mnoho o historii a z\u00e1kulis\u00ed spolku Rastislav a tak\u00e9 o strastech a slastech dirigentsk\u00e9ho posl\u00e1n\u00ed.<\/strong><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Co pro v\u00e1s znamen\u00e1 z\u00edskan\u00e9 ocen\u011bn\u00ed? <\/strong>  V\u00e1\u017e\u00edm si ceny Jihomoravsk\u00e9ho kraje, ale nep\u0159ece\u0148uji to. Je to cena kraje, nen\u00ed republikov\u00e1, nen\u00ed to cena Ministerstva kultury. Cenu pova\u017euji za na\u0161i spole\u010dnou, ne jenom moji, ale cel\u00e9ho Rastislava, proto\u017ee kdyby ten t\u00fdm nebyl, tak \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e1 cena taky nebude. Ten t\u00fdm funguje u\u017e v\u00edc ne\u017e 150 let a pot\u00fdk\u00e1 se s nep\u0159edstaviteln\u00fdmi probl\u00e9my. A to na prvn\u00edm m\u00edst\u011b ani nejmenuji finan\u010dn\u00ed pot\u00ed\u017ee, i kdy\u017e existuj\u00ed, ale nejd\u016fle\u017eit\u011bj\u0161\u00ed je person\u00e1ln\u00ed ot\u00e1zka \u2013 aby byl v\u016fbec dostatek lid\u00ed talentovan\u00fdch a ochotn\u00fdch na tom pracovat.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Jak podle v\u00e1s ve\u0159ejnost vn\u00edm\u00e1 v\u00e1\u017enou, p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm duchovn\u00ed hudbu?<\/strong>  U n\u00e1s je p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm mal\u00e1 podpora um\u011bn\u00ed. Do na\u0161\u00ed kultury jde velmi m\u00e1lo pen\u011bz. Nekritizuji p\u0159\u00edsun pen\u011bz do sportu, ale nel\u00edb\u00ed se mi, \u017ee je tam nesrovnateln\u011b v\u00edc pen\u011bz. Fotbal a hokej k ni\u010demu nep\u0159isp\u00edv\u00e1 \u2013 nevychov\u00e1v\u00e1 to. Sice si to vrcholov\u00ed sportovci tak\u00e9 zaslou\u017e\u00ed, s\u00e1m se r\u00e1d d\u00edv\u00e1m t\u0159eba na tenis, ale kdy\u017e vid\u00edme, \u017ee maj\u00ed miliony, tak je mi to l\u00edto. K\u00e9\u017e by se to zlep\u0161ilo. U n\u00e1s je finan\u010dn\u00ed podpora od st\u00e1tu mal\u00e1 a z\u00e1jem o hudbu, kterou Rastislav d\u011bl\u00e1, je tak\u00e9 mal\u00fd. Ale my toho nenech\u00e1me, proto\u017ee si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je to p\u0159\u00edsp\u011bvek ke kultivov\u00e1n\u00ed sou\u010dasn\u00e9 populace. Jsou koncerty, kde je to \u00fa\u017easn\u00e9, nap\u0159\u00edklad v\u00e1no\u010dn\u00ed koncerty v Blansku. I letos odhaduji, \u017ee v tom mal\u00e9m kostel\u00edku svat\u00e9ho Martina bylo \u010dty\u0159i sta a\u017e p\u011bt set lid\u00ed. Tak\u017ee \u2013 nest\u011b\u017eujeme si. Ale jsme zvykl\u00ed na to, \u017ee hudba, kterou c\u00edlen\u011b d\u011bl\u00e1me, tedy hudba, je\u017e m\u00e1 z p\u011btadevades\u00e1ti procent duchovn\u00ed obsah, tady nen\u00ed doce\u0148ov\u00e1na. Je to \u0161koda. Lidem nedoch\u00e1z\u00ed, \u017ee jim to vlastn\u011b neubl\u00ed\u017e\u00ed, kdy\u017e budou p\u016fl druh\u00e9 hodiny poslouchat Dvo\u0159\u00e1kovo Stabat Mater.  Jsem v\u011b\u0159\u00edc\u00ed \u010dlov\u011bk a mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee duchovn\u00ed hudba m\u00e1 sv\u00e9 nezastupiteln\u00e9 m\u00edsto. I kdy\u017e ka\u017ed\u00fd koncert nen\u00ed tolik nav\u0161t\u00edven\u00fd, nen\u00ed d\u016fvod toho nechat. D\u011bl\u00e1m to ke cti a chv\u00e1le Bo\u017e\u00ed, a kdy\u017e je tam tis\u00edc lid\u00ed, tak jsem r\u00e1d. Kdy\u017e je jich tam sto, tak to ud\u011bl\u00e1me stejn\u011b p\u011bkn\u011b.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>A v zahrani\u010d\u00ed je to lep\u0161\u00ed? <\/strong>  V n\u011bmeck\u00fdch m\u011bstech, kam jezd\u00edme, je to jin\u00e9. M\u00e1me velmi \u017eivou spolupr\u00e1ci se dv\u011bma n\u011bmeck\u00fdmi m\u011bsty \u2013 Wiesbaden a Waldsassen. Do Waldsassenu, kter\u00fd le\u017e\u00ed p\u00e1r kilometr\u016f za Chebem, moc r\u00e1di jezd\u00edme a dob\u0159e se n\u00e1m tam pracuje. Toto \u0161estitis\u00edcov\u00e9 m\u011bste\u010dko je po cel\u00e9 generace enkl\u00e1vou kulturn\u00ed a n\u00e1bo\u017eenskou, zat\u00edmco Cheb je enkl\u00e1va zem\u011bd\u011blsk\u00e1. Je to tam zak\u00f3dov\u00e1no. Do tamn\u00ed baziliky se vejde na posazen\u00ed skoro tis\u00edc lid\u00ed a na ka\u017ed\u00e9m koncertu je vyprod\u00e1no. Tam jsou lidi zvykl\u00ed chodit na takov\u00e9 kulturn\u00ed aktivity.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>P\u0159esto m\u00e1te koncert\u016f b\u011bhem roku dost\u2026 <\/strong>  Sbor navzdory v\u0161em obt\u00ed\u017e\u00edm pravideln\u011b zkou\u0161\u00ed. Loni jsme m\u011bli \u010dtrn\u00e1ct koncert\u016f, z toho t\u0159i v zahrani\u010d\u00ed. Za\u010d\u00e1tkem \u010dervence jsme byli v nejv\u00fd\u0161 polo\u017een\u00e9 farnosti v Evrop\u011b, v Obergurglu v Rakousku, kde kdysi p\u016fsobil rod\u00e1k z na\u0161eho regionu, kter\u00fd se narodil v Habr\u016fvce. Jmenoval se Josef Hrbata a studoval teologii v \u0158\u00edm\u011b. Ud\u011blal si doktor\u00e1t a tehdej\u0161\u00ed brn\u011bnsk\u00e9 biskupstv\u00ed ho vzalo jako sekret\u00e1\u0159e. Jen\u017ee mocip\u00e1ni naznali, \u017ee je to \u0161pion z Vatik\u00e1nu, tak ho zav\u0159eli. Po p\u016flroce se mu poda\u0159ilo ut\u00e9ci z krimin\u00e1lu, tak\u017ee mu \u0161lo o \u017eivot. T\u0159i \u010dtvrt\u011b roku se skr\u00fdval a dostal se do innsbruck\u00e9 diec\u00e9ze, kde ho jako mlad\u00e9ho a statn\u00e9ho biskup p\u0159i\u0159adil do nejv\u00fd\u0161e polo\u017een\u00e9 farnosti. Tamn\u00ed kostel stoj\u00ed 1930 metr\u016f nad mo\u0159em. P\u016fsobil tam asi \u010dty\u0159icet let a mn\u011b se s n\u00edm poda\u0159ilo nav\u00e1zat kontakt a s Rastislavem jsme tam mohli vystupovat. Loni jsme tam po dlouh\u00e9 dob\u011b asi patn\u00e1cti let byli podruh\u00e9.  Potom jsme loni vystupovali ve Wiesbadenu a Waldsassenu. Ob\u011b dv\u011b m\u011bsta cht\u011bla, abychom jim pomohli s Brahmsov\u00fdm Requiem. Zp\u00edvali jsme za doprovodu Kr\u00e1lov\u00e9hradeck\u00e9 filharmonie a se sto\u010dlenn\u00fdm sborem N\u011bmc\u016f. Ob\u011b m\u011bsta jsme loni nav\u0161t\u00edvili p\u0159i jednom \u010dty\u0159denn\u00edm z\u00e1jezdu.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Takov\u00fd z\u00e1jezd je jist\u011b n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00fd. Jak to sbor zvl\u00e1d\u00e1? <\/strong>  Je to n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00e9 fyzicky i hlasov\u011b. Kdyby sbor nem\u011bl v pr\u016fm\u011bru p\u011bta\u010dty\u0159icet let, nezvl\u00e1dl by to. Kdyby m\u011bl p\u011btapades\u00e1t, tak u\u017e nikam nejezd\u00edme.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Jak tedy sbor omlazujete?<\/strong>  Z Blanska m\u00e1me p\u00e1r lid\u00ed, v\u011bt\u0161ina doj\u00ed\u017ed\u00ed, n\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed i z Brna. Tak\u017ee bych r\u00e1d pozval ka\u017ed\u00e9ho, kdo um\u00ed zp\u00edvat a n\u00e1\u0161 reperto\u00e1r ho oslovuje. Nov\u00e9 \u010dleny r\u00e1di uv\u00edt\u00e1me. Chv\u011bji se o ka\u017edou hodinu sboru a jsem si v\u011bdom toho, \u017ee te\u010f to funguje a z\u00edtra u\u017e nemus\u00ed. Je to v\u011bc v\u00fdchovy. Nov\u00ed \u010dlenov\u00e9 vyrostou pravd\u011bpodobn\u011b z rodin sou\u010dasn\u00fdch \u010dlen\u016f a z \u00fa\u010dastn\u00edk\u016f r\u016fzn\u00fdch dopl\u0148uj\u00edc\u00edch rastislav\u00e1ck\u00fdch akc\u00ed, jako je nap\u0159\u00edklad Rastislav d\u011btem. Tato akce se letos uskute\u010dn\u00ed 19. dubna v 15 hodin v D\u011blnick\u00e9m dom\u011b v Blansku.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Co je na zp\u011bvu duchovn\u00ed hudby nejt\u011b\u017e\u0161\u00ed?<\/strong>  V\u011bt\u0161inou se jedn\u00e1 o d\u00edla vrcholn\u00e9 sv\u011btov\u00e9 literatury. Ani t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9 v\u011bci, ale ani lehk\u00e9 skladby se nesm\u00ed podcenit u\u017e v p\u0159\u00edstupu. Ka\u017ed\u00e9 zahrani\u010dn\u00ed d\u00edlo je t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9. A ka\u017ed\u00e9 m\u00e1 jin\u00e9 \u00faskal\u00ed. Nap\u0159\u00edklad Brahms je hrozn\u011b t\u011b\u017ek\u00fd i na hran\u00ed. Ale k dobr\u00e9mu p\u0159ednesu nesta\u010d\u00ed profesion\u00e1ln\u00ed orchestr ani technicky dokonal\u00ed zp\u011bv\u00e1ci. Pokud to zp\u011bv\u00e1k nec\u00edt\u00ed, nem\u016f\u017ee to zazp\u00edvat dob\u0159e. Mus\u00ed se um\u011bt vc\u00edtit do autora. Mus\u00ed k tomu b\u00fdt obrovsk\u00e1 pokora. \u00dakolem dirigenta je usm\u011br\u0148ovat i ty neuk\u00e1zn\u011bn\u00e9 zp\u011bv\u00e1ky a ona je postupem \u010dasu nakonec umravn\u00ed hudba sama. Proto\u017ee ono to nejde, b\u00fdt rozesm\u00e1t\u00fd a p\u0159itom se vno\u0159it t\u0159eba do Stabat Mater. A kdy\u017e u\u017e se nesm\u011bje nahlas, ale vnit\u0159n\u011b je po\u0159\u00e1d rozj\u00edven\u00fd, tak to Stabat Mater potom za nic nestoj\u00ed. Mus\u00ed si uv\u011bdomovat o \u010dem to je, mus\u00ed v\u011bd\u011bt, \u017ee Dvo\u0159\u00e1k to napsal v zoufalstv\u00ed, proto\u017ee mu b\u011bhem dvou let zem\u0159ely t\u0159i d\u011bti.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Vychov\u00e1v\u00e1te si n\u00e1stupce? <\/strong>  Po n\u00e1stupci tou\u017e\u00edm. Ale nen\u00ed to jednoduch\u00e9. Necht\u011bl bych, aby to n\u011bkdo d\u011blal h\u016f\u0159. Jeden mo\u017en\u00fd n\u00e1stupce se objevil, ale zat\u00edm to nedopadlo. Ani nev\u00edm, zdali by to byla z\u00e1le\u017eitost dlouhodob\u00e1. Ten dirigent v na\u0161em p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b se nem\u016f\u017ee pt\u00e1t prvn\u011b na pen\u00edze. Ov\u0161em dob\u0159\u00ed dirigenti to zadarmo d\u011blat nebudou. Pak je tam souvislost s otev\u0159enou n\u00e1ru\u010d\u00ed, kterou m\u00e1m pro v\u0161echny zp\u011bv\u00e1ky. Kdybych kdykoliv b\u011bhem t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 t\u011bch t\u0159iceti rok\u016f \u0159ekl: \u201eTak p\u0159\u00e1tel\u00e9, j\u00e1 jsem tady v\u017edycky, a kdo to berete v\u00e1\u017en\u011b, tak tady taky budete v\u017edycky. Za\u010dneme zkou\u0161et, a\u017e tady budete v\u0161ichni,\u201c tak u\u017e by Rastislav nebyl. A takhle si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to ud\u011bl\u00e1 ka\u017ed\u00fd profesion\u00e1l, kter\u00fd sem nebude jezdit a \u010dekat, a\u017e se sejdou. Dal\u0161\u00ed d\u016fle\u017eitou sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed je udr\u017eet p\u0159\u00e1telskou atmosf\u00e9ru, kter\u00e1 je \u017eivotad\u00e1rn\u00e1 a kter\u00e1 velmi napom\u00e1h\u00e1 tomu, \u017ee sbor funguje tak, jak funguje. Mus\u00edme b\u00fdt po\u0159\u00e1d v\u0161ichni kamar\u00e1di. To je jak v rodin\u011b \u2013 kdy\u017e se v rodin\u011b lidi hezky domlouvaj\u00ed a odpust\u00ed si a pom\u00e1haj\u00ed si, tak je to kr\u00e1sn\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u010cemu se d\u00e1le v\u011bnujete? <\/strong>  Krom\u011b Rastislava vedu je\u0161t\u011b smy\u010dcov\u00fd soubor Musica Nova, kter\u00fd jsem p\u0159ed dvaceti lety zalo\u017eil p\u0159i Z\u00e1kladn\u00ed um\u011bleck\u00e9 \u0161kole Jedovnice. Do \u0161koly jsem p\u016fvodn\u011b nastoupil jen na p\u016flro\u010dn\u00ed z\u00e1skok, a nakonec jsem odtam odch\u00e1zel do d\u016fchodu. Kdy\u017e jsem nastoupil, \u0159ekl jsem \u0159editeli, aby mi dal ty nejhor\u0161\u00ed \u017e\u00e1ky. Dostal jsem dvacet \u017e\u00e1k\u016f, z toho deset \u0161patn\u00fdch. A i z t\u011bch hor\u0161\u00edch vznikli dob\u0159\u00ed muzikanti. D\u00edky souboru mnoz\u00ed \u017e\u00e1ci v\u016fbec vydr\u017eeli u hudby. S t\u00edmto souborem jsme m\u011bli loni patn\u00e1ct vystoupen\u00ed. Na jednom koncertu u Brunt\u00e1lu jsme dokonce vystupovali spole\u010dn\u011b s Hradi\u0161\u0165anem. Oni p\u016fl koncertu, my p\u016fl koncertu a n\u011bco dohromady.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Pl\u00e1nujete n\u011bco podobn\u011b velkolep\u00e9ho, jako byla Carmina Burana na zimn\u00edm stadionu v roce 2012? <\/strong>  M\u00e1m vizi, \u017ee bychom to letos koncem \u010dervna zrealizovali znovu, ale nev\u00edm, jestli se\u017eeneme \u010dtvrt milionu. To byla tak zcela mimo\u0159\u00e1dn\u00e1 akce, \u017ee v\u011b\u0159\u00edm tomu, \u017ee kdyby tady mohli ti N\u011bmci, kte\u0159\u00ed vystupovali s n\u00e1mi, z\u016fstat a hr\u00e1li bychom to znovu, tak by nep\u0159i\u0161lo \u0161est set lid\u00ed, ale tis\u00edc. Ten projekt v roce 2012 p\u0159i\u0161el na 170 tis\u00edc a letos je to zkalkulov\u00e1no na \u010dtvrt milionu. M\u011bsto tolik pen\u011bz ned\u00e1 a nen\u00ed mo\u017en\u00e9 po\u010d\u00edtat s t\u00edm, \u017ee se to prod\u00e1 a zaplat\u00ed ze vstupn\u00e9ho. Tak\u017ee to z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed na pen\u011bz\u00edch. 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